Mad Daddy: AMEN :+}

[Billy Wiseman]

Mad Daddy:
I would not have gotten my child back without the help of AFRA. Together we kicked the crap out of child protection. Why don't you help the cause by going to work for the other side? I have it on good authority that AFRA was instrumental in helping return the kids in El Dorado. I don't always agree with AFRA or their political views and they don't degree with mine but dealing with psychopaths and tyrants is certainly not an exact science.

You are doing one thing correctly by attacking, now spend some of your resources attacking child protection as visiously as you are attacking AFRA.
http://www1.freewebs.com/badadvocatestalk/

[Dee]

Hello Billy!

I visited the link you gave, as well as the link that I was taken to, and I'm a bit confused as to what I am reading there.

At the risk of sounding completely ignorant, could you perhaps put into layman's terms what the page is really about because there seems to be a whole lot going on on one page which makes it quite confusing.

Thanks!

~Dee~
Macomb County, MI

[Billy Wiseman]

Dee
IM A confusing kind of a guy :+} if you knew my fight you would know what Mad Daddy: was saying..hes was telling mrs sHELL to stop fighting me and AFRA and spend some of Her resources attacking child protection AFRA has no part in my website But she wont listen so AFRA is just kicking back and letting her stick her foot in her mouth....check out these links below for more info i hope this clears up my confusing kind of a guy Rants :+}
http://badadvocates.com/
now look at the sites below..
http://thetruthistold.com/
http://www.webpronews.com/topnews/2007/04/25/webmaster-settles-with-ia-goes-after-teenager
Donna Suzanne Ostrum-Strand-Shell is currently married to a Dennis Gene Shell, who is the epitome of a momma's boy. Donna and Dennis live in his daddy's trailer on a crappy chicken farm in Colorado. They still live with his parents.
Allegedly, Dennis sought greener pastures in the arms of another woman awhile back, and has allegedly kindled some more extramarital bonds just recently.

One William O. Tower of Sacramento California sued Donna Suzanne Shell for putting slanderous information about him on her website www.badadvocates.com. Interestingly, she claims that the site isn't hers, even though it is registered in her name, and all email from the online forms goes to her own personal email account.

Donna is a graduate of the Coon Rapids High School. She got knocked up at age 17 which is the alleged reason for her father, a Mr. Donald Ostrum of Minnesota, punching her in the face. She was a high school cheerleader and alleged floozy.

Donna had two sons from her first marriage, which were the subjects of her involvement with Child Protective Services. While it is true that she got CPS off her back with her tactics of bullying, the boys deigned to reside with their father instead. Thus she allegedly never truly retained custody.

She not only allowed, but condoned, her new husband, Dennis Shell, an upholsterer, to beat her child Jacob with a martinet, which is a cat'o'nine tails. Allegedly this whipping left no marks, and resulted in an acquittal for Mr. Shell.

Since then, Ms. Shell has proclaimed herself to be the expert on how to deal with parents falsely accused of Child Abuse and Neglect. However, her longstanding ability to alienate others who refused to kowtow to her leadership has earned her relentless scorn and ridicule from usenet groups and other areas of the vast internet. Truth be told, her tactics of bullying lawyers guardian at litem (LGALs), CPS caseworkers, judges, and other officials, have only caused woe to her cases and clients rather than weal.

While other groups emerged to combat the false allegations of child abuse and neglect rampant in the United States, Ms. Shell has done everything within her power to discredit, disparage, and disenfranchise those people who worked hard to make a difference in their respective communities. Particularly those who disagreed with her.

Claiming to be a journalist, Ms. Shell, who actually does possess some published works of dubious quality, chose to create what would later be known as the "Bad Advocate List" (BAL). This BAL's purpose was to slander and malign any of her competitors in the Child Protection Reform "Industry". Despite most of her claims, very few of the people on her BAL actually charge any money for their advocacy/activism work. This BAL can be found at the same place mentioned above.

Ms. Shell then tangled with a man by the name of Billy Wiseman, who really is a journalist. His website may be found at www.thetruthistold.com.

Every single person on her Bad Advocate List had not been contacted by her prior to their inclusion on the list, to show their side of the story. Most of her allegations involve some sort of sexual impropriety, such as a California man being a child molester, a Michigan pastor having an affair, and an Illinois woman being a strip club dancer. Also, most of her BAL entries are men, as she has a victim complex and hates men.

To fully relay the details of this poor, sick woman would take as many pages as her huge book of dubious value, "Profane Justice". Let it suffice to say that it shouldn't take a judge long to realize what a scam artist she is, and rule accordingly. However, she is a force to be pitied, not feared, and her evil shenannigans under the auspices of Christianity should not be taken seriously.
http://naveendageek.blogspot.com/2007/03/yet-another-article-co-slashdot.html

[Dee]

OK, so let me see if I got this...

Mrs. Shell is a self-proclaimed know it all who has her panties in a wad and holds a personal vendetta against you and every other man in the world, along with anyone who's opinion doesn't match her own.

Suffice to say that she sounds like the president of the Bitter Ex-wives club or the perfect advocate for bad advocates. lol.

~Dee~
Macomb County, MI

[Billy Wiseman]

now you got it :+}

[Dee]

Yeah, well what can I say. I can spot BS a mile away in a fog storm and this woman's BS shines like a lighthouse! ;-)

~Dee~

[FAIR RULINGS]

If I remember correctly Bill and Ms. Shell had a lawsuit going. I haven't been following it or the out come. Whatever happened to that? I've had a lot of people referred to me by AFRA.

[Billy Wiseman]

mrs sHell and Bill are still playing ring around the Rosie its still in the appeal process she apealed her anti slapp and shes taking it to the top im just waiting for it to slapp her back..

[Billy Wiseman]

I can spot BS a mile away in a fog storm and this woman's BS shines like a lighthouse!

[Dee]

Awww... that picture is just absolutely precious!!

As far as the slapping with Mrs. sHELL, I'd stand back because I do believe that amount of pooh would splatter! lol

~Dee~
Macomb County, MI

[Billy Wiseman]

the picture i was just trying to be funny i found it on the net