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Treated unfairly at hearing - Treated like a criminal,

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hire a lawyer. dont do public defenders.

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Treated unfairly at hearing - Treated like a criminal,
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Somehow with all the looking for help on this thing called the internet I only found this website today. This is so hard. I had been looking for help. I went back to court with my ex on the 25th. It is still so fresh in my mind and what he has done to me that I can't speak on it yet. I have written to so many others on this topic, done my story a hundred times and all with the same results - nothing, nothing, nothing. No direction. no help.
I will put my full story up as soon as I can recover. I am still hurting over the way my ex alienated my kids from me. But what can you do. He abused two other wives the same way ( and they would not stand up in court and face their abuser, they wouldn't do anything.) One wife had a child die due to the fact of the way this man treated his son, us all. What is wrong with this court system? When are they going to take the blinders off and recognize the fact that parental alienation is a subtle but very pervasive disease. Like a cancer that grows and you don't know it till all of a sudden your dying from it. And I am truly dying from what he has done to me. I left him, I disobyed the master. Therefore I am to be punished and he knows the way to punish me is through the children.

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At 6:07pm on December 10, 2008, dale said…: im playing the song "just once" by james inram. at my page for the kids. you can always fill out a minute sheet with the court clerk since hes denying you visits. im so sorry hes doing this to you. thats sad. hats off to a fellow parent. selfless love. thats what i beleive in as a dad. selfishness is destructive to a family. she belongs with you. i hope that you can talk to her and that she will have forgiveness in her heart. for whatevers weighing heavy on her. i seen the photos u posted. hopefully someday you both can go places together. maybe stop in for an ice cream at DQ. or shop and do cool stuff. its not to late

At 8:59pm on December 6, 2008, dale said…: i added a new song. ive always liked james ingram he has such a wonderful voice. the snow was so bad here i ordered in pizza.lol i may sit down and pplay one of my sons video games. damians game transformers. alot like the movie.

At 8:21pm on December 6, 2008, dale said…: i have one way.somehow i knew you were here also for some related reason as i am. hmmm gaurdianship to a close and really honorable relative on your side of the family. since you still have parent rights till termination this is the only escape clause i know of. it closes dcs cases right in their tracks. of course they look for permancy in a home though. but id like to see is a way where us parents can come back and refile for custody at a later time when all is well. like a mom or aunt or cousin ,sis or bro!!
hopefully this site empowers you to to win. i know what its like. i only see my 2 kids 1 hour per week with a wet behind the ears college girl supervising my visit. books they learn from just dont do it. each kid differs. of course if i quized them i have many trick questions for them. i dont though. but if i did. like as to when kids start to walk or talk and many more. what to do when they are in the store and the kid wants that candy bar and throws a tantrum
those types that have no familys of their own really dont know till they are parents them selfs. the parenting style they push on people just wont work as each kid differs. old fassion grounding and taking things away work as well as standing them in the corner. id say if theres a good relative maybe file a gaurdianship
petition. u still have the say so on things. unless terminated by a court. ive always had a knack for the field of law. just not able to do school right now. or navy either. i thought alot about that also. im a welder ,automotive

At 1:29pm on December 6, 2008, dale said…: ive taken renewal center and other programs ,cadac in the past. on this type of issue. lol since i had an abusive relationship in the past. with my x in the early 90s

At 1:18pm on December 6, 2008, dale said…: my grandma took beatings from my grandfather for a decade. i think in time it killed her. brain anrism. i mispelled that. they had 12 kids all together which included my mom. sociopathic he was.
on the morris side. my dads side.... it was my grandpa frank that escaped alcatraz. famous really. and yet never found.
so u take beatings from that man? and you both have a family business? u still have kids under 18? does he accuse u alot? im here with you!! if your with him. i can help you here. heres what i say. for now walk softly. it takes 2 to argue. hmmm also i go silent myself let them blow off the steam but not add to it by giving feedback to fuel it. play it cool. yea i die inside also because my kids are not with me. wish you could learn self defense. men are less likely to try again if the lady is just as tough as nails. i know this myself. been married along time. they teach you how to block all hits. hed get the clue then. it takes a while to get that good though. i took uechi ryu okinawa karate. but my wife sat and watched. she knew how just by seeing them do it.
please be careful. he may have a mental illness. maybe a socio path or maybe even skitzofrenia. theres a root cause to his abuse
and it may not be all you. u just get caught in the middle when he has short circuits in his brain. he should be commited to have these things tested and treated with meds. i hate meds for behavior but. thats all someone can do. hes a danger any other way. 23 years is alot to write about. theres alot of men that want to change. they all get caught up in a web where the wifes block the doors take the car keys and hide them. stuff like that. and feel confined. what happens is they fight their way out. like a corned racoon. yeppers i been there myself. and didnt mean harm. but thats the result on the way out in attemps to get away for awhile.
men need leisure. going fishing,playing pool, darts, anything they like to do as men, but there are those types that dont trust and hurt their partner over it. or even a short circuit. keeping tabs on you is his only means of trust. if ur right there then he cant acuse you. but then again short circuits. i had a father in law like that with my x wife. doug was his name. my father in law of the current day isnt that way. hes pretty nice. id tazer him. lol ...then again no. cause when he wakes up hell come at you.

At 7:36pm on December 5, 2008, dale said…: are you divorced from him? all kids go through a tough time i think. mine did when my divorce was filed. ive reversed it on my father in laws wishes. or i would have been final by now. but thats one huge reason my kids are in foster care. i was divorcing. and she didnt take it well. that i was burned out and not wanting her anymore. how old are your kids. mine are 6 and 7 i have another also 11 yrs old. the law makes us all responsible for what happens in our homes and with our spouses. sucks but thats how they are. they pick on all our antrocities. i may have mispelled that. lol i have a father in law thats single if you like florida? hes pretty well set for life. im sure u know what i mean.lol panama city / panama beach florida. you had to pay 5000 for a lawyer?for him? wow the prosecutor has paper work to stop people like that.
are you still under the same roof with him? people here will help you get away from him if you need help there? or maybe find someone that will share a house with you. i see adds like that all the time. and with the economy the chances are even easyer of finding a place to go. if it were me id vanish. that is" if hes always been this way. did you find all this out long after you were with him already? heres my myspace zerocool9m
anyways if your ever on the market. my father in law is free. and i promise youll live extremly well and in peace. your welcome to post a photo here. no ones gonna wrong you here. it will take at least a sheriff escort to get you and your family safly out of that mans way. thats my best thoughts. and it will help to keep from loosing the kids like i have if under 18. dont clue him in. surprise him only. lol laws are more strict now on parents that fight if the kids are present or nearby where any yelling can be heard. even if one of the parents are innocent. and not trying to fight. looses can occur i use to keep a video camera handy at home. incase of trouble. then i had my proof. id bail out of there somehow. but truth is that type wont stand down. hell keep on comming back and maybe it will get out of hand. if u choose to stay and boot him from the home your in. those are the reasons they make prisons. to hold those types. i hope that im helpful. i dont hide in the closet like most parents do that have the same problem i have with welfare. im not scared to come forward. thats how change happens. of course they complain and slander welfare but do nothing but cower away in their homes. i dont mean it in a bad way. they should come out of the closet really. indiana alone has 10,000 kids in foster care. thats alot of parents that could be here and joining together to change and improve laws. uniting. id only hope though. well im gonna go visit my friend joel. also such abusers it may be mental. he may be sick somehow. they cant see their illness in them selfs. if your married to him still you can have him commited. another best answer for you. if hes a danger to people yes the police can commit him. i dont like involving police though that was my mistake in sept 14th 2008

At 8:00pm on December 3, 2008, dale said…: i have a mother in law that uses my kids to hurt me. shes been at this for many many years now. a true parent is a selfess parent. thinks of the kids before their selfs. selfishness is ruin. breaks family structure. of course thes are my beleifs as people do differ

At 7:54pm on December 3, 2008, dale said…: were moms and dads here we must live for our kids. hehehehe doing whats right is hard sometimes.

At 7:53pm on December 3, 2008, dale said…: i know now what i should of done but its to late. my kids are in the hands of welfare as of sept 14 2008. if your afraid of him pick up a packet at the prosecutors office. they have protection paper work there to remove him and keep him away if hes at all a threat to your family and you. i wish id known long ago these things.