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This group will serve to discuss issues of parental alienation by children who have experienced this and parents who have been victim and also if we have any parents that have participated, we want your views also.

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PARENTAL ALIENATION REAL OF FANTASY

While many in the feminist movement make claim that Parental Alienation is junk science and it simply is a defense for men who batter women, I believe this thought pattern to be based simply on the personal experience of those who initiate this view and narrow minded of those who have neither first hand experience or simply go along for the ride.

The fact of the matter is, Parental Alienation takes place every minute of every day in every city in this country. It is the result of the violation of the parental rights of one parent through the awarding of custody which takes away the Constitutional right of a person to parent his or her children. This is a right guaranteed under the XIV Amendment but violated on a daily basis by judges who either believe themselves to be above the Constitution or have forgotten what they learned in law school.

While these violations take place, the overall attitude of parents who have made children together, turn to dislike and or hatred of the other parent. This breeds concious acts by the parent awarded custody to hurt the other parent by turning children against the other parent for whatever reason.

There is generally no basis for the aforementioned activity other than the perpetuation of an advesarial relationship between what once were two individuals in love, by attorneys, court mediators, child support collection mechanisms and oh yes let us not forget the judges.

The relationship between parent and child is a sacred relationship and should be fostered at all cost by our family court system however, there is no profit when people are working together. Consequently, alienating a child from a parent by those who have been awarded custody and have more time and influence over the children, will destroy not only the parent child relationship during the formative years of children but it will inevitably surface within the children as maladjustments and poor peer choices.

Minister Ronald Smith

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Comment by Peter Love on September 14, 2009 at 9:14pm: I wrote a song specifically to address parent alienation titled,
"Let My Children Go." You can hear the song on my not for profit - The Peter Love Save Our Children Foundation.

My prayers and blessings are with you. <3

With love,
Peter Love
www.peterlove.biz

Comment by Gina Turnbow-Gann on September 6, 2009 at 5:02pm: Hello to all. I am a new member on here and think this site is what I have been looking for over 10 yrs. My children have been suffering PAS for at least 10 yrs and now one of my children is an adult now with her own child. My other 2 children are still with their father and stepmother who are doing the alienating. I do not have the money for an attorney to fight him for custody. Are there actually attorneys out there that help the victims that can't afford to hire an expensive attorney?

Comment by dogettydoggonedo on June 16, 2009 at 9:03am: Equivalent of Death v Equivalent of Just Cause

I have not committed a crime but I got tried and 'sentenced' 'in' the 'non criminal venue' and given the equivalent of the Death Penalty without an arraignment or probable cause for the DISOPSITION 'UNABLE TO DETERMINE, and the Criminal Code is not there to protect my parent child relationship.

It has been over four years since I have had a relationship whit my son. He was taken to a pretend birthday party and never brought home. Now he identifies with all the 'put downs' people put in his mind while paying homage to this unjust ADJUDICATION that did not WITHSTAND THE EVIDENCE, because UNABLE TO DETERMINE means "no reasonable cause" to believe child abuse or neglect has occurred. But, no matter, I was forced to make contact with my opponent at the order of an unfair judiciary when the record clearly stated the CPS wrote me and said, "We are not responding to the 'volume of your letters'.

All my complaints were 'diagnosed', but those complaints came after the CPS closed my case, and while the record stated 'no reasonable cause', or was CLOSED AT SCREENING, [by the Child Abuse Hotline] CPS continued to harass me and intimidate my daughter and I. MY right to 'Life', 'Liberty', 'Happiness' has been infringed upon for more than four years now.

The CPS wanted to put my daughter in 'Foster Care' at the age of 18 to 21 for the reasons they listed:

“Her e-mail address is ‘jesushealedmetoo@hotmail.com’”,

“She returns our mail with ‘various markings’, and sends e-mail to the FBI”, oh, and “She won’t obey"… basically, and when my daughter refused their ‘SERVICES’, CPS threatened ‘in open court’ to build a case against her, which they did, thought the welfare office, because they suspected I was baby sitting my grandbaby. CPS tried to take my grandbaby from her with things that were DISMISSED by Mark Allen Heslinga. But, I had my daughter flee with her newborn and hide till the case was closed. We have lived in abject oppression and fear, peeking through the spy hole whenever some one knocked on the door, creeping away in frightened silence, when the CPS was seen at the door.

Please pay close attention to CPS REFORM issues.

Thank you for reading my complaint...

All Rights Reserved
Without Prejudice
Subject to UCC 1-308

Marilyn LeBaron

http://apps.facebook.com/causes/185202/62977423?m=67789dbe

Comment by Charla Martin on May 8, 2009 at 5:07pm: Thanks again Dennis. I joined the yahoo group. I think I may take you up on your offer...there seems a great huge need to try and gather PA/PAS parents in a few key locations (online), but with all the websites, they are all spread out all over the place (not to mention that alot of sites have very low participation). Not to mention the mental state that most of us are in, which makes it tough to be involved and even feel like participating. I am needing to find some face to face participation, as for years it has been nothing but the internet (thus, my inquiry about conference/seminar). I would like to attend something with at least 30 people, hopefully much more. There was just a Canadian Symposium end of March (see cspas.ca), but I just found that one.

If you can start working on a comrehensive listing of all the higher traffic websites for PA/PAS (could be parents, moms only, dads only), most pertinent websites that you can find, that would be a great starting point. I will work with you from there.

Charla

Comment by Charla Martin on May 8, 2009 at 1:24pm: Thank you Dennis....no, I have not checked out Yahoo Groups. I will do that, but there are so very many online blogs, chats, etc., that I feel like I am getting nowhere. I think PAAO has the best chance of being able to reach out, but surprized there is nothing there yet in the way of events listed by city. I am currently working 2 jobs and do not have much time left to get web time in. I am thinking that following the PA/PAS 'experts' (Amy Baker, Michael Bone, Jayne Majors, etc., etc.,) and their websites may reveal speaking engagements, etc. that are upcoming. As I uncover a trail of information that makes sense to me, I will probably become more involved and active in setting up meetings myself...within my working limitations.

Comment by Charla Martin on May 8, 2009 at 12:14pm: I am looking for upcoming conferences and seminars within the U.S. and Canada that are meeting for the purpose of Parental Alienation. I am having trouble finding websites/schedules/etc. The PAAO website seems to have nothing for 2009 listed (other than the April 25th awareness activities). I cannot seem to find a few strong, central websites that list upcoming events. Alot of my searches turn up old and very old past happenings. If anyone has any suggestions for websites to keep on top of or events themselves, please private mail me or list here....thanks you!

Comment by Bessie Hudgins on April 21, 2009 at 5:22pm: No child should have to choose either parent over the other...and no parent should make a child do so.

Comment by Katrina C. Daniels Lee on April 21, 2009 at 5:17pm: I am introducing the "I don't want to choose" by Dr Amy Baker, course into the school systems that provide divorce counsling. What better way to help our kids through the ugly process!

Comment by Theresa Martin on April 21, 2009 at 4:29pm: My apologies for overlooking this group with the latest information. Thanks Mary.

Governor Mitchell E. Daniels, Jr. of Indiana, for the second time, signed the Parental Alienation Awareness Proclamation recognizing this behavioral form of child abuse.

To view this latest proclamation or any of the other fifteen signed proclamations, or to participate in a Parental Alienation Awareness Day event, please visit PAAO-US.

http://paao-us.com/about.asp

Please continue to work with your own Governor encouraging them to support our efforts by signing a Parental Alienation Awareness Proclamation. Together we can stop parental alienation across the United States.

Kindest Regards,
Ms. Theresa Martin

National Board Director,
Parental Alienation Awareness Organization-United States
Hotline: (727) 565-4213

PAAO-US: Stopping Parental Alienation Across the United States

Comment by Megan Fenton on April 21, 2009 at 3:41pm: Just because it may be true that the courts won't prosecute perjury doesn't mean people should be advocating false accusations of child abuse and ruination of lives to get their way. People like that disgust me. They want justice and what's best for the children, but advocate using the children unfairly against another parent, and convincing the child that the parent is evil. How is that what's best for the child? How is that advocating the parent-child relationship? Everyone says how important it is to have both parents involved with the child, but then propose methods to be used in family court where one parent has no choice but to be alienated from the child.