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Comment by Leisha on July 19, 2009 at 2:31pm

Fathers Justice Flyer 2009

Comment by Don jR on April 10, 2009 at 3:05pm

Donald,

I'm sure sorry about the issues your going through...
When I first saw notice of...
I thought sure it had to be a prank...
Obviously it appears as though I was very wrong...
And, that you & paul may indeed be in a very bad situation.
Not much I can say other than of course,
I'm sorry and I sure wish there were some way I could help...
I doubt there is anything I can do..
But, if something surfaces and I might be able to help somehow... Please let me know and I'll do my very best to do whatever I might!!!
- I Promise!!
-Respectfully,
Don jR.

Call anytime!
970.625.5469

Comment by Katrina C. Daniels Lee on January 8, 2009 at 8:03pm

Hey Guys...I have Dr. L. Lowenstein on talkshoe nest week from the UK. Our show will be at 7pm EST. Please make a note and join us!

Comment by dale on December 27, 2008 at 3:58pm

im busy but wish i could. can you help me at all im trying to get my kids back from dcs. ?

Comment by Donald Tenn on December 27, 2008 at 3:04pm

Hey all,

Is there an F4J member who would like to moderate this group? I just don't have the time to do all that needs to be done here, sorry. If so, please contact me at: donaldtenn@yahoo.com

Thanks,

Donald Tenn
Fathers-4-Justice

Comment by littlegirl on November 19, 2008 at 1:05pm

I'm with F4J,Ohio. Spent some time in Columbus with Spiderman and Superman. You just had to be there,lol.

Comment by BKStrelioff on November 19, 2008 at 8:37am

The Elkins Task Force ( http://www.courtinfo.ca.gov/jc/tflists/elkins-contact.htm is meeting today in San Francisco. Here are some of the comments I have submitted, and which I am told will be considered:


Parents who kidnap their children and remove them to California not only commit child abuse, but create a severe financial hardship on the parent who continues to reside in the home state under UCCJEA. Failure of California courts to aggressively resolve and acknowledge sister-state continuing jurisdiction, and to enforce the return of the minor children provides aid and comfort to the abductor, at the harm & expense of the abducted children as well as the other parent. These harmful delays are compounded by the ability of the abductor to tie the matter up in various courts of review. Similarly, lack of interest in various California public agencies, such as DCFS and the Los Angeles County District Attorney’s Child Abduction Unit (CAU), to effectuate the resolution of the matter and return of the minor children to the home state also further harms the minor children. California law enforcement organizations' policies of not searching for abducted children if their abductor claims the children ran away provides a clear mechanism for child abductors to murder their children, falsely claim the children ran away, without risk of the matter being looked into.
Failure of DCFS to immediately = place abducted children in protective custody exposes those children to further harm, including death at the hands of their abductor. The CAU has stated, in testimony as well as in filings with the Appellate Court, that they will not search for children if the parent with custody is not a resident of Los Angeles County. Combined, these organizations establish Los Angeles County as not only a safe-haven for parents who kidnap their children, but also for those willing to murder their own children.
The financial burden on the parent whose children were abducted and hidden in California, while far less important than the abduction and murder of those children, is a substantial hardship. The actions and inactions of California organizations in prolonging the time it takes to rule and effectuate the return of the children compounds the hardship, as well as directly assisting the possible murder of the abducted children.
To help address these issues in the best interests of the minor children:
1. Continuing jurisdiction under UCCJEA is one of the simplest legal points to resolve. There should be a law that upon a claim of out-of-state jurisdiction, the California court shall contact the appropriate court within 24-hours to resolve the matter. Similarly as soon as the out-of-state jurisdiction is raised, the minor children should be taken into protective custody to prevent subsequent abduction.
2. The parent who takes the children to California should be responsible for the travel and living expenses, including loss of income, imposed on the other parent to attend hearings or other matters related to the minor children in California. A bond sufficiently large should be required to be posted to cover these expenses, and imposed immediately upon presentment of credible proof that another state has continuing jurisdiction.
3. The parent who takes the children to California should be responsible for the legal costs incurred by the parent attempting to have the children returned to the state with continuing jurisdiction, again via immediate posting of a sufficiently large bond. This should include costs for courts of review.
4. As required, and from time to time, financial bonds should be increased as needed, and disbursed to those providing services in a timely manner upon proof of expenses incurred.
5. If a decision is made to temporarily leave the minor children with their abductor, GPS tracking devices should be used individually to track the minor children as well as the abductor. The abductor should be responsible for the cost of this monitoring, and also required to post a substantial bond to help fund search and rescue efforts.
6. Substantial financial penalties should be imposed upon the abductor for every day any of the minor children are prevented from being returned to the state with continuing jurisdiction, from the date of abduction up to the date the children are returned to their home state, or the date the youngest child reaches 18. The abductor should be required to post the maximum penalty amount (which assumes the children are not returned, and therefore is calculated through the date the youngest child reaches 18) in full immediately upon the court being made aware that another state has continuing jurisdiction under UCCJEA.
7. If the abducting parent is under an obligation to pay child support, they must post a full bond for the entire amount due and owing through the entire term of the previously ordered child support.
8. The children should not be exposed to, or involved in, any form of counseling or non-emergency treatment without the prior consent of the out-of-state parent. Costs for any such treatment or counseling shall be the sole responsibility of the abductor, including costs for involvement of the out-of-state parent.
9. The abductor shall be responsible for providing the California court with a complete copy of the out-of-state court proceedings, and must provide said information prior to filing any further pleadings in California once the jurisdiction claim has been raised.
10. The abductor shall post a bond sufficient to cover reasonable costs for a search for the minor children. Determination of what is reasonable can be calculated based on historic actual costs encountered by agencies that perform such searches.
11. All schools, churches, health-care providers, other organizations frequently attended by children, etc., in California shall be informed of the status of the children as abducted, with the abductor being responsible for the costs of notification.
12. All California agencies shall make location and rescue of abducted children a top priority, regardless of age of children, state with continuing jurisdiction, claims the children “ran away”, etc. This includes entering premises to search for the children as well as physical removal of the children and placement of them in protective custody.

• Presenter's name (Your name)
Brian Strelioff
• Title/position (i.e., Party, Attorney, Mediator, etc.)
Parent with sole custody of two minor children
• Contact information (i.e., address, telephone number, e-mail, etc.),
Email preferred, BKStrelioff@Hotmail.com
• County of residence;
Kane County, Illinois (ties to Los Angeles County, California)
• Organization or affiliation, if any (i.e., Are speaking for yourself and/or an organization?)
Speaking for myself, my children, and other similarly at risk children and parents
• Brief description of presentation (i.e., What are you suggesting?)
Proactive and substantial steps be taken to discourage parents from abducting children and seeking refuge in California
• If you have a pending family law case in any California court, please specify which court(s).
Juvenile Court in Los Angeles, California Appellate Court. The California Supreme Court, as well as Los Angeles County Family Courts, have been involved previously.

Comment by mammabear on October 14, 2008 at 2:22pm

Hi.
I've been ghosting around...I'm just slow to jump in until I've taken some time to watch a bit of what's going on.

Comment by Adam on September 12, 2008 at 12:31am

Hello fellow friends of fathers for justice im new to this website and fathers for justice in lancaster,pa i reside in hummelstown what can i do here in my home town ive already started to use the online book on our site and wanna do more

Comment by FRED on September 10, 2008 at 8:58am

Remembering Ron Smith: father, hero, patriot. Ron was a father, his story is the same, they took away his children, and sent him our way. The love of one's child is a terrible thing, it vanishes fear with the speed of a flame, and that's why were all part of the patriot game.

The lawyers and judges, counselors and quacks, who like ghouls in the night steal our children away,
who bully and bribe with orders and writs, and bargain and sell our children like mules, and break apart families, and bankrupt us like fools, who's corruption, lies and fraud has no place this side of hell, .... we parents are risen and have something to tell.
We remain unbeaten, and stand up to you now. Like Ron Smith we are telling our stories out loud, you can not silence us like sheep at the slaughter, you will not secretly take our sons and our daughters.
You may harass and insult us, accuse with your lies and your hate, your lewd and vulgar inferences makes you not great. Like women of the town, plying your avocation, we disregard your vile inuendos, and take instead our proper station. We are greater than you despite all your treasure won from bankrupting parents. We are more noble and grand despite your harassement and smears, as tested by fire we now stand tempered and strong.

Like Ron Smith, we parents stand loud and bold and proud, to face the enemy of evil and corruption that silently steals our children and families. Like patriots of this nation who stood against tryanny from across the seas, we patriot parents, like Ron Smith, stand at the ready to face the tyrants and thieves that have seized the courts of our own land. For the love of one's child is a wonderful thing, it steals away fear with the speed of a flame.. and that is why we are all part of this patriot game.

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