Foster Parent Encouraging Immorality?

[Mark Edward]

Ok, I need some input.

Setting: A 16 yr old boy is taken into foster care. He is placed with his maternal grandparents. He should NEVER have been removed from his happy stable family setting. Grandparents are helping CPS to keep the boy due to "ideology" differences - i.e. they want control over their grandchildren's "beliefs" and don't like their daughter's religious beliefs. So grandparents help CPS lie about their own daughter so they can keep her son.

Situation: Boy is approaching 17th birthday. These "christian" grandparents decide, without informing Mom, that they will let the boy sleep over at a friends house for the 2 nights preceding his birthday. Another "christian" couple, and friends of the family. Thing is, the boy's "friend" happens to be female, and 16. No other children in the house there. So he spends 3 days, 2 nights with her for his seventeenth birthday. They only live 18-20 miles apart, so why the need to stay overnight? I mean, it's not like this is his best buddy, and they are out running around in the woods playing airsoft, or paintball, or shooting bb guns, or riding dirt bikes, etc. No, this is a GIRL and they have nothing else to do but hang around inside the house watching movies, and who knows what else.

Mom isn't even allowed to talk to him without the grandparents listening to every word, but he is allowed to stay at random friend's houses whenever he wants. Stupid situation. Anyway, would anybody here find this to be normal? Letting a 17 yr old boy sleep over at a 16yr old girls house? And worse, he is in "state care". Should the Criminal Pond Scum worker be allowing this sort of thing? Every home must be "approved" before one of "their children" is allowed to stay over night. So, the social worker MUST know there is only 1 16yr old girl living there, right? And why would the social worker give permission for an "overnighter" under these circumstances? Isn't that kind of like "exposing the child to dangerous situations" - i.e. inciting to statutory rape, perhaps? Not that anything happened... but it could have. Are they hoping for an illigitimate baby to kidnap?? What are the "christian" grandparents thinking?

Is this a really really stupid thing that the "care givers" and social worker have conspired to allow? Am I just hopelessly "old fashioned"?

Oh, and oddly enough, at the same time, Mom gets an email request from the social worker asking for her permission to allow the boy to get his driver's license... She can't participate in raising him, but the state needs to give permission for him to get a state license? Just wondering what people think of this. Feedback?

[Theresa Martin]

First off, anyone that would lie and remove a child from their biological parents cannot possibly claim to be Christian. Second, the boy is not being trained to honor and respect parents but to live a loose life filled with immorality, approved by the State and encouraged by these so-called 'loving' grandparents. If the adults continue to act this way, the chances are the boy will WANT to remain in the maternal grandparents home without giving a hint of wanting to return to MOM - a place that has too much structure.

When the child is 18 he can get his own license, until then it must be parent approved. This statement just goes to show how much legal weight the social worker really has compared to the biological parents. More and more we are moving towards the State raising our children and the outcome will be hell on earth.

Interfering with the parent/child bond is destructive to all. It cannot be justified in any way nor should it be excused.

[cathi hartline]

there is no sense to it at all! .... fortunately in my experiences I have been able to instead of calling c.p.s., do what I can to help the parent/child(ren) when ever I can. it is the right thing to do!..too many times I have seen c.p.s. bypass the real cases, just to go after the ones trying..not that I didn't make bad choices....I did! but at least I still try and learn from my mistakes and always adjust and improve! a person must!

[Social Services Suck]

Kinda sounds like what's going on with my situation. My mother & her female partner have custody of all 3 of our kids. My oldest is at a 'youth treatment center'. My 2 youngest are being parentally alienated from us. They allow them to be watched by a childless lesbian, instead of their own loving parents who live 5 min. away. I despise 'human' services with all my heart. CPS is a terrorist organization who hates traditional families & everything moral. They probably just want your son to get that girl pregnant so they can have another baby 2 pimp out to child collecting foster f*cks. That's cps's mentality: children 4 profit.

[Mark Edward]

We share the same mind on this subject! How is it that a parent can turn on their own adult children, and help CPS destroy their own grandchildren? This is unreal. It seems to be the new trend. We are seeing the alienation thing from grandparents with their grandchildren. What illness has struck the People of this world? It's sick. Criminal Pond Scum. They are a menace to society. Those who help them are "useful idiots".

Abolish CPS. Nothing less is acceptable.

[cathi hartline]

adult children need to have the right to make their own choices and decisions,raise their children their way, hopefully improve on what was put before them...parents of adult children need to be there for their adult children and without enabling them any more than absolutely necessary assist them..what ever way they can...because the ultimate goal is unification of as many family members as possible for the innocent to be raised with involvement! ( it takes a village to raise a child! by village I mean the nucleous being family surrounding the child then an outer ring of extended family,the next ring being friends...etc., the more exposure a child has according to the childs age, etc., to the world/learning...the better..within moral,boundries,safety always ultimately rule number one, but the family should care for the family if at all possible! I do not stop being a Mom, just because they are all adults...they still long to talk...have unconditional love ...wether they know it is there yet or not, (depending on their circumstances)...children,adult children...have rights to know where they come from and not to be alienated due to judgmental gossip, poverty,divorce,so many reasons should not deny family from family! it does not just harm the "one" they are alienating, but all the ones decendents, and on down the heredity line...all people...all human beings, with feelings!...but that does not matter in a court of law!

[Mark Edward]

Follow up, latest news, most recent attack...

Mr. "Dad", (my wife's now-excommunicated parent) has just showed some very dark tendencies. My wife popped in for a quick visit the other day. Turns out that her "parents" have been visiting SECRETLY with our kidnapped baby. And the foster mom gave them a photo album of OUR SON, complete with the false name they gave him written all through it. The children were stunned and confused when she found this album. Apparently they were under very strict orders by the grandparents to NOT tell their mother they had been to see our son, and were NOT to let her know anything or see the album. Talk about emotional abuse! Then the idiot calls the next day threatening and screaming about "the album is missing"! What album? Just "the album". He still won't admit that they were secretly seeing our son without telling us.

So, today, he pops in and beats on her house door. Since my wife is scared of him by this point, and isn't returning his threatening voice messages and emails, he is now stalking her. He leaves, and calls again "you think you are going to win something? Well, you're not. You are going to lose big time." Then within the hour, the county sheriff calls! This bastard went to the POLICE to turn in his own daughter over a missing photo album! And here he sits, emotionally abusing the children, turning them into informants against their mother, forcing them to keep secrets from her, and is working to kidnap our newest son too. And he is pissed off about a photo album??

For goodness sakes, it's hard to get the police to respond to a stolen car or burglary incident. But they get instantly on the stick when a CPS informant shows up for something so stupid. What has happened to the Christian community that people this sold-out to Satan can creep out from "the church" and sell out their own family? And what damage is he doing to the children?

I'm reminded of the incident with Solomon and the baby. He offers to cut it in half so both can have a share of it. Only the real mother can have compassion, and must surrender her "rights" to save her baby. Except, in this day and age, there is no "wise judge" or anyone else who cares. So, the children get abused, or they get brought into a scorched earth battle. It isn't right.

[Mark Edward]

Well, this just keeps getting worse. My wife stops by to see her children yesterday. Her 11 yr old daughter answers the door. Other kids are around. She sends one to get her parents (gotta keep this "legit", and have a "supervisor" there.) So, her parents both come storming out, and initiate confrontation with angry demeanor right off the bat (again, IN FRONT OF THE CHILDREN!!) Ok, so now "dad" grabs the phone, and tells her he is going to call the police because she "is not supposed to be there". She tells him not to, and pushes the phone back (he has gotten that close to her.)

Are you ready for this? The bastard PUNCHES HER IN THE STOMACH!!!!!?? IN FRONT OF THE CHILDREN!!!!

The social worker today emails her (actually, it is someone else ghostwriting, the social worker is border-line illiterate): "I understand that there was a confrontation at the Faulks’ home yesterday. It is inappropriate for you to get into an argument with your family in front of the children."

God help us all.

This social worker's name is CHRISTINE NJOROGE, out of the Bremerton Washington DCFS office.

Isn't it great that CPS cares so much about children? CPS workers are a menace to society. They are dangerous criminals walking in our midst with immunity to kidnap our children, destroy our families, and take away our life without any possibility for us to protect ourselves. No due process, no trial, no jury.

[cathi hartline]

many of the c.p.s. workers I met were such extremists wounded themselves traumatically,(so they naturally assume the worse even if they can't prove it) that it takes time to convine them You are a good parent that just needs help...self esteem, from abuse, improper raising,who all knows the multiple reasons a single parent can have when the other parent and all family abandon the single parent (judgmental,own agendas,biases, etc.,) that when a worker believes You and the gov wants to sell Your children,or ?? doesn't the entire family desrerve to face the truth? know the truth of who they are and each other? i even had the head of c.p.s. tell Me I should forgive My molester and get together with Him, (after He had helped take all my siblings from me yrs before) and helped take My children from Me..because I gave up the "dream of being a nurse" to be a mother. and despite all the rumors in our town of Him sleeping with all of my younger siblings ( I had left home to start my family)..how much can any person take before they become mentally ill?

[cathi hartline]

this is so similar! my "dad" is threatening my daughters because my son is in jail, and He doesn't want them to testify! so he shows up at their jobs intimidating them,this same person told 2 of My daughters to take off their dresses when they were visiting My grandfather for His 90th b-day, where they had never been (their only opportunity to see Him?) and He flaunted His policemans gun (he no longer is a policeman after being fired how many times? from how many different forces?) and my daughters were minors at the time! and how many preachers did he get fired? how much rightiousness from a human can I choke on? and how many has he intimidated? rebellious~molested...poor~victim...rejected~make my own family,misguided but true, in my dysfunction I wrongly kept having children ..not in a vacummm,but non the less...I take My responsibilities seriously...I do not believe in murder, though some may fault me, i love them all unconditionally!ALL 11!...and my 10 grandchildren!

[cathi hartline]

I think it is real sad ...yes, I think based on the message, that they must be hoping for a great~grandchild...perhaps re: of the consequenses etc., some people believe the "line" is more important that sensibilities!? what serious crime did the mother or the 16 yr's old dad do, to justify placing them in a "christian" home, (not that I would degrade any christian intent, there is a wide range, ) but when we put a corrupt gov. system to rule over our most precious gifts from God, what else can we expect?